I’ve been organizing my files, a project I undertake whenever I’m overcome by guilt re: the mess I will leave behind if I’m hit by a bus. I persevere at this Sisyphean task until something mercifully diverts me.
Sorting through random paper yesterday, I ran across information I had collected on a colonial Holland family of Goochland, Hanover, and Amelia Counties, Virginia. My cryptic and somewhat snarky note about them implied that Winn researchers had not noticed the connection between these Hollands and the well-known Winn families of Hanover/Amelia/Lunenburg. I penned that note a couple of decades ago and it is probably no longer true, if it ever was. But it got me out of organizing my files to write this post, for which I am grateful.
The Winn context here is provided by Richard and Phoebe Wilkes Pledger Winn of Hanover County, Virginia. Richard’s family of origin is the subject of much speculation but no apparent evidence. He died about 1750. There is no extant will for him in Hanover, although he probably had one.[1] He did, however, own land and enslaved people located in Amelia which provided an essential link to establishing Richard and Phoebe’s family. Five children — there might be others — are established by excellent circumstantial evidence. I consider them all proved, although you might disagree.[2] I described the evidence in this article, so you may judge for yourself:
Here is a refresher on Richard and Phoebe’s five proved children, birth order unknown, just in case you’re new to them or have forgotten:
- Col. John Winn of Amelia County, whose wife was Susannah Irby, daughter of Charles Irby Senior. Col. John died in Amelia in 1781, leaving a will naming his children Richard, Jane, Charles, John, and Susannah.[3]
- Col. Thomas Winn of Lunenburg County, who was married twice. His first wife is usually identified as a Miss Bannister, although the only evidence I know is that the couple named a son Bannister Winn. Col. Thomas’s second wife and widow was Sarah, a genuine character who was almost certainly née Bacon.[4] Col. Thomas died in Lunenburg, also in 1781. His eleven children — including which ones were Miss Bannister’s and which were Sarah’s — are conclusively proved by a fabulous chancery lawsuit in Lunenburg.[5] I explained the lawsuit in this article.
- Daniel Winn, also of Lunenburg. His wife was probably Sarah Tench, about whom I know nothing except that she was a daughter of Henry Tench. Daniel died in Lunenburg in 1799 leaving nine sons and one daughter. His will named only his son Joseph, although his other children are established by gift deeds and a web of other convincing evidence.[6] His children are identified and the evidence concerning them described in this post.
- Susanna Winn, who married John Irby (also a child of Charles Irby Sr.) in Amelia in 1757. John Irby died in 1763, and his will identifies their young children as Charles, Lucey, and John Irby.[7] Susannah and two of the Irby children witnessed her brother Col. Thomas’s Lunenburg will.
- Phoebe Winn. And here, at last, is the Winn-Holland connection. Phoebe’s husband was Michael Holland Jr., son of Michael Holland Sr. of Hanover and Goochland Counties. Michael Jr. died in Amelia County in late 1762 or early 1763. Their only proved children were Joseph and Mary Holland. Both were established by a deposition concerning Michael’s estate.[8] Joseph is also proved in a deed in which he sold some of his father’s land. His mother Phoebe, identified as such in the deed, released her dower interest.[9]
And with that, I will add a brief chart for the family of Michael Holland Sr. of Hanover and Goochland, along with a few notes which (I hope) will help you track these guys if you wish.
See you on down the road.
Robin
1 Michael Holland Sr., wife Judith _______. They apparently lived in Hanover, although a will was probated in Goochland.[10] He amassed an enormous amount of land in Louisa, Goochland, and Hanover Counties, much of it on Licking Hole or Lickinghole Swamp or Creek. He died in early 1746/47.
2 John Holland, inherited 800 acres on Lickinghole. Died in 1773. Wife Martha _______. Seven children are named in his Goochland will.[11]
3 John Holland, b. by Oct 1746
3 Judith Holland Parish
3 Hezekiah Holland
3 Martha Holland Graves
3 Nathaniel Holland, inherited land on Little Bird Cr. in Goochland.
3 Lucy Holland
3 Alice Holland Nash
2 Michael Holland Jr., inherited 400 acres in Louisa Co. Born about 1695. Was in Goochland Co. in Aug 1752 when he bought 865 acres from Philip Pledger. Was in Nottoway Parish, Amelia Co., by 28 Mar 1755, when he sold some of that tract. Died in the 4th quarter of 1762 in Amelia County. His wife was Phoebe Winn, sister of Col. John of Amelia, Col. Thomas of Lunenburg, Daniel Winn of Lunenburg, and Susannah Winn Irby of Amelia.
3 Joseph Holland
3 Mary Holland
2 Elizabeth Holland m. Pouncy Anderson; he inherited several tracts from his father-in-law.
2 Richard Holland, inherited a plantation in Louisa Co. and “Meridith’s Branch” in Henrico, where he lived as of Oct 1746, probably 500 acres and 450 acres, respectively.
2 George Holland, inherited 700 acres in Louisa Co., plus another 650 acres, location uncertain. Wife Sarah Ford, daughter of William Ford. Michael Sr. had to leave this large legacy to George Holland to assure that Mr. Ford would give Sarah a legacy.
2 Judith Holland m. Henry Martin, inherited 520 acres on Lickinghole plus 50 acres in Hanover a half-mile below the plantation where Michael Holland Sr. lived.
2 Anne Holland, under age in Oct 1746.
2 Susannah Holland, under age in Oct 1746.
2 Mercy Holland, under age in Oct 1746.
[1] There are few Hanover Co. records prior to 1865.
[2] Professional genealogical proof standards are relaxed somewhat when burned records result in the loss of primary conclusive evidence, such as Hanover County wills.
[3] Amelia Co., VA Will Book 2: 360. Will of John Winn of Amelia County dated 3 Mar 1780, proved 25 Jan 1781. Daughter Susanna when she reaches age 18 or marries, 7 slaves of equal value to those given daughter Jane Epes before her marriage. Son Richard Winn, 2 years after my death, 2 slaves (for support of wife until delivery). Wife Susanna, possession of dwelling house and sufficient maintenance out of my estate. Sons John and Charles Winn, remainder of my estate divided equally 1 year after death. Wife Susanna Winn, executrix, and Truman Epes and Charles Winn, executors. Witnesses: Giles Nance, John Irby, William Gooch, Elisha Winn, Joseph Winn, and Jane Epes. Charles and John qualified as executors.
[4] Lunenburg Co., VA Deed Book 25: 82, agreement dated 16 Mar 1820 between Edmund Winn (son and executor of Col. Thomas), Sarah Winn (Col. Thomas’s widow), and John Winn Jr. providing that Edmund would build a house for John Jr. on land where Edmund lives. The land belonged to Edmund’s mother Sarah for her lifetime, then descended to Bannister Winn, a son of Col. Thomas. However, John Jr. had bought the remainder interest in the land from Bannister Winn’s heirs. Edmund and his mother Sarah agreed not to deprive John Jr. of use of a certain part of the said tract. Edmund was expressly not bound for his mother’s conduct, only his own. I’m not sure who “John Jr.” is, probably either the son of John Winn m. Ann Stone or the son of Daniel.
[5] Col. Thomas Winn’s children by his first wife were Mourning, Elizabeth, Thomas, Richard, William, Bannister, and John Winn (who predeceased his father). His children by Sarah Bacon were Keturah, Henrietta Maria (AKA Marie), Edmund, and Washington.
[6] Lunenburg Co., VA Will Book 4: 264, will of Daniel Winn dated 23 Apr 1789, proved 14 Feb 1799. After payment of debts, remaining estate to son Joseph, other children already provided for. Daniel’s children were Marticia (wife of Cornelius Crenshaw Jr.), Joseph, John, Thomas, Elisha, Alexander, Orsamus, William, James, and Galanus.
[7] Amelia Co., VA Will Book 2X: 45, will of John Irby dated 28 Jan and proved 27 Oct 1763. Witnesses Thomas Wilkinson, William Fitzgerald, Mary Irby, and Henrietta Maria Irby. Executors Susannah Irby, “her brother John Winn,” and my brother Charles Irby. Wife Susanna Irby, 15 slaves and personal estate until the eldest child is 21 or wife remarries, then an equal division between my wife and children Charles Irby, Lucey Irby, and John Irby. Sons John and Charles, 560-acre tract where I live divided equally when son Charles comes of age or marries. Wife to have manor house and 1/3rd of land for life.
[8] The deposition suggests that Michael Holland may have had more than two children, although I can only prove two.Amelia Co., VA Deed Book 8: 314, deposition signed 3 Jan 1764 by John Nance repeating Michael Holland’s stated intent to give his daughter Mary two enslaved women and his son Joseph two enslaved men, and identifying Michael Holland’s wife’s brother as Mr. Winn. Holland also said his family was so large that he “wished his children could go for themselves.”
[9] Amelia Co., VA Deed Book 9: 105, deed dated 26 Feb 1767 from Joseph Holland of Nottoway Parish, Amelia, to Charles Irby, same, 118 acres in Raleigh Parish adjacent Winn’s line et al. Phoebe, the mother of Joseph Holland, released dower.
[10] Michael Sr.’s Hanover will, if any, is probably lost. Benjamin B. Weisiger, III, Goochland County, Virginia Wills and Deeds 1742-1749 (Richmond: 1984) 222, will of Michael Holland dated 10 Oct 1746, proved 17 Mar 1746/47. Wife Judith, 800 acres in Louisa County and 800 acres on Lickinghole Cr. Son John Holland, 800 acres on Lickinghole. Son Michael, 400 acres in Louisa bought from Craddock. Son-in-law Pouncy Anderson, 900 acres on Lickinghole and 200A bought from William Owen and other land. Son Richard, the plantation in Louisa County and “Meridith’s Branch” in Henrico where he now lives, 500 acres and 450 acres. Son George, 700 acres in Louisa County and other land. Son-in-law Henry Martin, 520 acres on Lickinghole plus 50 acres in Hanover, 1/2 mile below the plantation where Michael Sr. lived. Daughters Anne, Susannah and Mercy when of age or married. Daughters Elizabeth Anderson and Judith Martin. Grandson John Holland, the son of John, 500 acres in Orange County. Executors Henry Martin, Pouncy Anderson and Richard Holland. Witness John Martin, John Parrish, John Sandland.
[11] Goochland Deed & Will Book 10: 378, will of John Holland dated 7 Jun and proved Sep 1773. Wife Martha. Children John Holland, Judith Parish, Hezikiah Holland (female), Martha Graves, Nathaniel Holland, Lucy Holland, and Alice Nash. Son Nathaniel inherited land on Little Bird Cr.
Very much enjoy your blog and your research. I am a Michael Holland, Sr. descendant through his son Richard Holland who married Sarah Hudson, daughter of Charles Hudson of Hanover. You might be interested in checking out my blog A Son of Virginia. I did a three-part series on Michael Holland, his children and his children. I also did a four-part series on Richard and Sarah (Hudson) Holland and one post on finding the will of Charles Hudson. Looking forward to reading more of your posts!
Steve, thanks for the heads up! I will check out your blog.
I’m still here Cousin . We are going to Scotland for 2 months. You are the best Wynne/ Wynn/ WINN researcher that I know . Love to you and your family form the Cotswolds, U.K. Thank you for all your research and kindness . We love you ! ❤️❤️❤️
Sissy, I’m so glad to hear from you! Y’all have a wonderful time in Scotland. I want to hear about it, please. We are planning a trip there in the fall if the health issues continue to be favorable.
xoxoxox
Thank you , I love to see your research as I have many Holland autosomal matches . You are the best Winn researcher ever. I love you so much. ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing your valuable research on the Winn and Holland families, Robin.
P.S. Robin, have you seen this piece by Michael Stanhope, “HOLLAND, HARRIS, HILL, MARSTON, WINN, AND WHEELER, et al. of Shropshire and Virginia”?
https://walterfitzgilbertdehamilton.wordpress.com/2022/09/19/holland-harris-hill-marston-winn-and-wheeler-et-al-of-shropshire-and-virginia/
No, I had not! Thanks for sending, cuz. 🙂
I enjoy Digging up Dead Relatives and depend on your wonderful Winn research. So here is my little addition to your Holland research.
Judith Holland (1750-1795) , daughter of Michael Holland Jr. and Phoebe Winn, probably married Medkip (Medcalf) Thompson (1748-1789). This is Amelia and Nottoway counties in Virginia.
Who is Judith?
Medkip Thompson and his wife Judith (we know her first name from his will) was long been a brick wall in my research. While Medkip is difficult — not least of which is his first name — breakthroughs are possible. For example, looking into the Will and Deed books, Tax Lists, Court Records, and Tithables lists of Amelia county, in the DAR library, I recently discovered that he was bound out by court order because he was an impoverished orphan and that his first name (in his early teens) was Medcalf. I also learned other information about Medkip that leads to additional evidence on the parentage of his wife Judith.
But, who is Judith? She is most probably a Holland. Back in 2000, Marshall Neathery (famed expert on the Neathery families of which Judith is an ancestor) identified the wife of Medkip as surnamed Holland. He did not identify her first name. Sources he gave were a family bible or public documents. (I received no reply from him when attempting to find further information on these sources.) New evidence shows that she was Judith Holland the sister of Joseph, Mary, George and Zachariah Holland and the daughter of Michael Holland Jr. and Phoebe Winn.
1.Medkip’s will references a very large debt owed to Mary, the orphan of Joseph Holland (b. Abt 1747), Judith’s brother. Medkip’s will even explicitly orders the sale of certain specified property to pay that debt.
2. Medkip was poor. In 1763 the county court bound him out to William Sneed because he was an impoverished orphan.
3. Nonetheless, Medkip was able to buy certain properties from Joseph Holland and his mother the Widow Phoebe Winn Holland.
4. Coincidentally George Holland, Judith’s brother, was also bound out to William Sneed in 1763 because his father Michael Holland Jr. (the husband of Pheobe Winn Holland, also father of Joseph) had just died and George needed to learn a trade (his family was not impoverished). William Sneed was listed as a “patroller” and thus not subject to tithe.
5. Medkip and George Holland are listed as housemates with William Sneed in the 1765 and 1766 lists of tithables. By the way, William Sneed was later a neighbor of Medkip and Judith.
So, Medkip’s life was intertwined with that of the Hollands, and it would make sense that he would be married to a Holland daughter, one of George and Joseph’s sisters. It would explain how Medkip could buy a piece of family land despite his poverty, and how Joseph would lend him money — which he still owed at the time of his death and gave special priority for repayment in his will. Together all of these facts make a compelling circumstantial case for Medkip’s wife, Judith, to be a child of Michael Holland.
Eric, thanks for that substantial contribution to my minuscule Holland research! I have run across “Medkip” and wondered about that unusual name. What a great story! You certainly established that Michael Holland Jr. wasn’t being ironic when he talked about having a large family!
I will incorporate this information (citing you as a source) into the Holland article when I get a chance. Still cleaning out files. Ugh.
Regards,
Robin